OSNPC Treasure Hoard #2306
D&D 5e and PF2e Head to Head
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The debate has been going on since Pathfinder first came onto the scene. It only intensified when Pathfinder 2e was released in 2019. And the recent kerfuffle with Wizards of the Coast has fanned the flames again.
Which is better? D&D or Pathfinder?
This week I have 2 featured videos because I think both systems are great…but not perfect. Depending on what you want, either might be the better choice.
First, I offered a few ways that I think D&D 5e has the edge…
I then turned it around and gave Pathfinder 2e it’s due…
And just for fun, I even threw Dungeon Crawl Classics into the mix.
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I hope you will permit me to offer a few thoughts on something I observed this week that disappointed me within the TTRPG community in response to the featured videos.
On Wednesday, I posted my video listing a few things I think D&D 5e did better than Pathfinder 2e. I expected that there would be some disagreement and even good-natured fun about the differences. I know everyone has their favorite game, but I was surprised by the amount of inappropriate feedback.
I welcome open conversation and discussion. But so many of the comments were nasty and made personal attacks on anyone that dared to imply that D&D 5e might have any merits to it. Even implying that a PF2e rule was more complicated than other systems was met with a deluge of posts questioning the original poster’s intelligence.
I can tolerate a lot and I will let slide most attacks on me, but I had to remove those with the worst language or where the poster was personally attacking others. I removed more inappropriate comments from this video than for any other video I have ever made.
By comparison, the next day I posted a video with reasons PF2e was better than D&D 5e and the response was significantly more pleasant. Few, if any, attacks. The impression I am left with is that there are those in the PF2e community that are pleasant as long as you only say nice things about the game.
I love all TTRPGs. I think they all have good things and they all have bad things. No one person gets to define what “D&D” is. It is whatever you want it to be. I might like certain rules, but if you like different rules, they I am happy for you. I do not understand the need for some to try and minimize or destroy something other people like simply because it is not their thing.
I sincerely hope that those posting such inappropriate comments represent the minority of PF2e players and that most fans of the game are not so intolerant of other viewpoints.
If you are unaware of what I am referring to, I invite you to check out the video and the comments and form your own opinion. I warn you that I may not have been able to filter all the comments with objectionable language.
Thank you for allowing me these few moments to share these thoughts.
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